I have been doing some thinking about the Orange Embark 4 person tent. Last summer I hated it, I wanted no part of it. Just seeing it made me sick. Well that was almost one year ago and now I realized that the tent's   one and only problem is that it water squeezes through the zipper on the door when it rains out. If you read my last post, your probably thinking, "Oh Yeah, mister tent expert, what about the broken pole." Well I fit all the poles back together and when the tents set up, there under pressure so the won't fall apart on you when you are sleeping. Over the past month, I have come to really like the Orange Embark. It Stinks when it rains because right under the gets wet but when it's nice out, you would have no way of knowing that it leaks through a small part of uncovered zipper. No it will never be as good as my red embark but its good for what its is.